Cannabis clubs kicked to curb in Danville Around Town, posted by Editor, Danville Weekly Online, on Jul 12, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Danville glaucoma patients will still have to go elsewhere to buy pot legally. Town of Danville officials in a Tuesday study session agreed with a staff recommendation to create an ordinance permanently banning marijuana dispensaries.
Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 2:50 PM
Posted by Common Sense, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 12, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Thank you, our Town Council, for having common sense and permanently banning these pot clubs in Danville. It is ridiculous how this so-called "medical marijuana" is overused by people claiming they need it for their "head aches" and "back pain" and every other lame excuse. The very, very, small percentage of people who actually need this, like for glaucoma, can get it by simply driving for 15 minutes to Oakland. Putting a medical marijuana club in Danville would clearly overwhelm our limited resources to police and enforce it, bring in criminal elements from other cities, and send the wrong message to our youth that it is just like aspirin or tylenol and ok to be used for common ailments like head aches and back pain. This is a great example why our family lives in Danville, for we have common sense town council members who support family values and will not give in to these misguided liberal politicians who are being used by the criminal elements in other towns to further an illegal drug culture. Good job, council members, the actual citizens of Danville fully support you, and do not listen to the outsiders from other cities and very, very small percentage of liberals who live in our town.
Posted by Jeff, a resident of another community, on Jul 12, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Meanwhile your bars and convenience stores still sell and serve poisonous alcohol and tobacco. And you ban medicine for people in need. INSANE!! Cannabis is the safest therapeutically substance known to man. Shame on you.
Posted by Jeff, a resident of another community, on Jul 12, 2011 at 6:17 pm
You do know that aspirin and Tylenol kill many children each year from overdose donít you? So cannabis would actually be better. It is impossible to overdose on cannabis. So you would rather send the children a message of no compassion and to suffer and take pharmaceutical poisons instead of a safe herb. Man you are a sick individual.
I hope you or your loved ones never have cancer and have to use the poisons that are prescribed. Please read and do some research instead of spreading DEA lies.
Posted by ScientificBasedSense, a resident of another community, on Jul 12, 2011 at 9:41 pm
So who has taught you your common sense 'CommonSense'? Do you like to listen to propaganda? Do you deny the truth of how things work? Are you even aware of what cannabis is? (Versus 'marijuana')
One of the first steps to progress in this country is allowing other opinion to enter your mind for logical based analysis. If we are to keep things the way they are without ever changing them we will only go on a downward spiral.
Why is it such that we have such a high percentage of cannabis usage versus other countries (For example the Netherlands) when we have had approximately 70 years of cannabis prohibition? Is it because this war on drugs has done something correct? If so then why does the percentage of people who have used cannabis risen?
Moving away from the generalized questions, how about questions of effects. If cannabis is a horrible thing to use then why do people who use alcohol do countless evil acts, and those who smoke cannabis alone typically do nothing different than the average citizen and possibly a little bit excess eating?
Maybe when the scientists are finally able to publish articles about the benefits of cannabis and even the not-so-much negative aspect of it people will be able to change the social stigma around it. But because of redundant issues such as the DEA saying there is no medical benefit, and not allowing research on it at the same time, we cannot look for progress.
If someone would show me repeated clinical trials that had results that cannabis had severe negative effects that out weighed the beneficial effects then I would be totally for prohibition. But I am fairly certain especially as the usage of cannabis has never killed anyone, that this will never be.
Please, use your mind, and keep it open. Seek the truth, not just words spewed from the mouths of the powerful.
Posted by Jeff, a resident of another community, on Jul 13, 2011 at 12:27 am
@Common Sense, why does it matter where I come from? And why are you resorting to name calling? Truth is the truth. Stick with the topic. Who is paying you to put forth your propaganda? Or what law enforcement agency do you belong too? I have science, medical journals and history to back up my facts. And why do you say liberal? This is about liberty. Actually this could be looked at as a conservative idea. Taking the government out of the business of dictating what a doctor can do and what they can prescribe to a patient. Cannabis prohibition as a whole is based on a lie. Cannabis was made illegal because of racism, yellow journalism, and corporate greed. And NOTHING yes NOTHING to do with health and welfare. Sorry to burst your belief. Cannabis prohibition is a complete fraud. Just look up the history of cannabis prohibition. Look at some of the statements Harry J. Anslinger made. Wow really? This is the cause you support?? Bottom line is, if cannabis is legal you donít have to smoke it. Drinking is legal and guess what? You can choose not to drink. Imagine that. So you sir are the one with the uneducated view.
Posted by RC, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 13, 2011 at 6:23 am
As a prodigy of the 60's and an occasional smoker I don't want the cannabis club in Danville. The traffic it brings is not what I want to see here. Cookies, lollipops etc. has nothing to do with the "medical" theory we are all led to believe it is for. If a patient truly needs it they know where to go.
Posted by Bill, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 13, 2011 at 6:46 am
Surprisingly there are more liberals in Danville than you are aware of. I am one of those and I support the ban on Medical Marijuana Clubs or dispensaries in our town. Far too many people and teens get these cards from unethical medical providers. These businesses are just a problem looking for a place to happen. For these reasons, this liberal opposes them and supports the work of the town council.
Posted by Michael Taylor, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 13, 2011 at 7:22 am
Great job city council! We do not need the SF/Berserkly mindset in our town. Give them an inch----in SF if a weed smoker's stench wafts into your apartment----your baby's nursery perchance---there is NOTHING you can do to stop it.
Posted by Charlie, a resident of the Alamo neighborhood, on Jul 13, 2011 at 7:34 am
Danville does not need to go to "pot". San Ramon Valley High School is an open campus, at lunch time. Pity the poor teachers teaching afternoon classes, while students suck on their "pot" candy. By offering pot candy, it's designed to attract our youth.
Medicinal marijuana should be available to the small percentage of people it benefits. The reality is, there is far more drug abuse, than the medical assistance it provides. If Calfornia wasn't so broke and looking for revenue, this wouldn't be an issue.
I have a friend who owns a business near a "pot shop" and is very upset by the cliental it draws and the problems it has caused.
Posted by spcwt, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 13, 2011 at 7:42 am
If people need pot, order it online. It comes straight to your house. Letís get rid of that tattoo shop while weíre at it. Keep the Danville fantasy alive. No grime, low crime. I love it here. So do my wife and little kids. Itís like living in Disneyland. Cue the music. Obviously itís an illusion and I like it that way. The real world will intrude soon enough on their delicate minds.
Posted by Lili , a resident of the Alamo neighborhood, on Jul 13, 2011 at 8:04 am
I agree with Bill. Just because we are "liberals" doesn't mean we want a bunch of people who obtained medical marijuana cards illegally lining up for their dose in our neighborhood. Marijuana can definitely ease the symptoms of disease, and while I feel it should be available to those truly in need, everyone knows that it is easy to obtain a card and use it for recreational purposes. Why bring more of that element to Danville? There are enough kids who obtain dope on their own. Here are some conditions that may meet the need for a card.
Posted by Ellie, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 13, 2011 at 9:47 am
Some of the comments here are so narrow minded I cannot believe they are from residents of a town that is known for the higher education of its' residents. First of all....I would rather have pot legalized so the issue of cannibus clubs would be a non issue. If you are worried about kids getting pot from these clubs then you should be extremely worried about them getting it on the streets (which they will do anyway). Street pot is often laced with unknown substances and often brought in by the "element" you seem so worried about. Also, if pot were legal the revenue would help all of our cities. I am 62 yrs old, don't smoke pot or drink but I would rather be hanging out with someone smoking pot than someone who has had too much to drink!
Posted by jrm, a member of the Vista Grande Elementary School community, on Jul 13, 2011 at 11:19 am
I view this a civil libertarian issue, as well as a pragmatic evaluation (echoed by many) that the "War on Drugs" has been an abject and expensive failure. The fact is law enforcement has a huge stake in sustaining the illegality of pot. How one can justify classifying it in the same federal category as heroin or cocaine is beyond logic. Every year at harvest time we see ridiculously expensive eradication campaigns wherein the cops use helicopters and quasi military tactics to go out in the wild and hunt down the devil weed. Folks, this is a total waste of our money in times of limited resources. The same logic that prevailed finally overturning prohibition of alcohol applies here in my view. Moreover, continuing to criminalize pot is now destroying all aspects of social order in Mexico...it is so obvious, make it legal, grow it here, and the narco terrorists in Mexico lose their primary market.
Lastly, I think this is a generational issue. The emerging youthful voters are increasingly in favor of decriminalization. If some people think a dispensary would draw "the wrong crowd" I suggest you visit downtown at closing time when the bars shut on a Friday or Saturday night, using your logic we should not allow a Meenars, Tower Grill or The Crown to operate. Government and runaway cops...stay out of our lives and chase the real criminals, I for one am sick of paying for the "money pit" of the "War on Drugs" and an increasing number of tax paying citizens agree with me.
Posted by Derek, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 13, 2011 at 11:32 am
Too many posters here are getting into the issue of legality, and the pointless war on pot, but that is not what the article is about.
Pot clubs have created headaches-aplenty for the communities in which they reside - including armed robberies - and there is absolutely no question that they often bring in a very seedy element to the area. That does not mean people who really need it should not be able to obtain pot. Let's stick with the subject at hand. I'm a lefty too, but I am a lefty who ends up calling the Danville PD about once a year when I see an obvious "business transaction" taking place between vehicles parked at our nearby school. We don't need this in Danville.
Posted by Julia, a resident of the Alamo neighborhood, on Jul 13, 2011 at 11:48 am
What a wonderful feeling I get every time I look outside and see my home town of Alamo.
DANVILLE...What a simple minded Town Council. The Mayor made a comment stating "we're a pretty small town" what she meant to say is that, "we're a pretty small minded town".
Congratulations DANVILLE...another nail in your coffin. Instead of the small town council pushing their agenda on the majority, they should follow the wishes of the majority...remember council members you are not there to push your agenda, but to administer the wishes of the town's majority.
This is another reason, I am so pleased with the folks in Alamo for voting down township. The bunch of clowns that were running for a sit on the new Alamo Town Council would have moved in the same direction as crazy DANVILLE.
Posted by Thanks!, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 13, 2011 at 12:17 pm
This is one commodity that doesn't need to be dispensed in Danville. I mean, legally. If you need it, grow it. If you smoke it, keep your local dealer in business and continue to buy. If you want to use your facade of a med marijuana card-use it somewhere else.
Liberal or conservative doesn't matter for this issue. It goes both ways. What matters is that people pay what they pay to live here so that we can attempt to limit the rif raf that we already have.
Agreed on town drunks. Agreed on the crime increase lately without the pot clubs. Let's not exacerbate it. Education has nothing to do with accepting pot clubs. I am highly educated and don't want them in my town. I don't subscribe to the tyranny of the minority unless it's a blatant civil rights violation. Period. Smoking med pot is NOT a civil rights issue. If I live in Danville, and have Kaiser insurance, I have to drive to WC or Pton for services. Why can't med marijuana users do the same?
FYI parents of teenagers...kids can get pot a lot easier than alcohol so the argument about the pot candy use @ SRVHS in the afternoon-it's already happening but in the form of one hitters, bongs, pipes, and joints. Wake up.
Danville is a small minded, small town. That's why we choose to live here. And frankly, if you don't like that-then leave. If we get to vote on this...watch it go down in a blaze of glory (no pun intended).
Posted by Louise, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 14, 2011 at 3:10 pm
to Derek- Jewelry stores, convenience stores, and banks also are associated with armed robberies- should we ban them too??
to Lili- so are you saying you'd rather see our high school kids dealing with the likes of the guy who killed Ryan Fuchs?? Yea, really, MUCH safer!
to Jeff, Scientificbasedsense, jrm and Ellie- thanks for adding your rational arguments. You are right- decriminilizing it would get rid of many of these issues- the "war" on drugs has been a failure- why should Danville be supporting the D.C. view on this?
Having said that, I also don't think the article provided enough information to make a rational decision whether it benefits the citizens- how much revenue to the city and how will that be offset by increased "enforcement" costs? How many Danville residents would this be a convenience for? What buyers would it attract from other cities? Why don't those cities have their own dispensaries? Are there any studies that show what the affect of local teenagers REALLY is? Seems like the debate could use some facts....
Posted by Derek, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 19, 2011 at 9:59 am
Comparing the type of "traffic" that a bank or jewelry retailer brings to a pot club is pretty mindless, yes? How about a nice gun shop next to Elliots called "Rednecks R Us"? That could get robbed as well, but since it's just like a bank why don't we give a thumb's up on that too?
small-minded seems to be a subject upon which you are well versed. I bow to the queen.