Schierholtz faces felony charges for hit-and-run incidents in Danville Sunday Comments on Stories, posted by Editor, Danville Weekly Online, on Aug 5, 2010 at 6:40 am
Prosecutors filed felony charges today against Cainan Schierholtz, the brother of San Francisco Giants outfielder Nate Schierholtz, in connection with a series of hit-and-run drunken driving crashes in Danville on Sunday.
Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 9:53 PM
Posted by SLO, a resident of the Alamo neighborhood, on Aug 5, 2010 at 7:59 am
How sad. He had such a promising future. He was a cadet in the armed forces you just wonder what went wrong. So many kids in the valley after graduation just get lost here. They seem as if they do not know what to do for their lives. Could it be the financial pampering that is supplied to these kids that they have no direction and make poor choices? I wish his family the best as they suffer along with the victims.
Posted by In Alamo, a resident of the Alamo neighborhood, on Aug 5, 2010 at 9:59 am
Continuing from the thread on the previous article about this incident (Since most of them will migrate to this article now):
Ah -- it appears that a new squadron of "Cainan Supporters" have arrived. They are no longer talking about "good Christian" but seem to be "San Ramon High School Community" (i.e., his drinking buddies?).
Listen to the facts -- the guy hit four different people/objects. He was coherent enough to know that if he got caught in the condition he was, he would be in serious trouble. He KNEW that he might have killed someone -- which is he tried to escape so desperately. He was also COHERENT enough that when he got locked on a deadend street and a huge (good samaritan) truck was blocking his way, the only way he could escape was by ramming through the truck. He realized at that time that if he tried that HIS LIFE would be in danger. Only when his life was in danger, he stopped. So he WAS COHERENT ENOUGH to know what he was doing. He was not coherent enough to drive. But given that he was self-aware, he was coherent enough to know that he was not in a condition to drive.
Enough said - the crook knew what he was doing. Stop with the "incoherent" (or he did not know if he hit anyone) defense. And I don't care if he is good christian or a good lad (which many are disputing already). And putting up all you friends to defend you (or maybe it is just one person posting as multiple people?) is not going to help.
Once again - hats off to those that stopped him and thank God no one was hurt.
Posted by Lynn, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Aug 5, 2010 at 11:27 am
If this guy is a good christian, then I fully understand why I quit going to church! A good Christian is a person who lives as a Christian, not just when they are in the church confessing to their sins.
Cainan is a 23 year old MAN, who is responsible for his own actions. He is not a boy, a lad, or a good citizen. At least now, he doesn't have to worry about being compared to his brother. He has now made a real name for himself.
Posted by For the Record, a member of the San Ramon Valley High School community, on Aug 5, 2010 at 11:41 am
First for the purposes of correcting the above record, the senior class Air Force Academy Cadet is Cainan's brother Vai Schierholtz, not Cainan himself. Vai Schierholtz was the senior class president at SRVHS during his tenure at high school. After the Sunday incident Vai drove from the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs to Denver, where his brother Nate was playing against the Colorado Rockies. Nate Schierholtz, the Giants outfielder, is on record in the Contra Costa Times as stating that although he is shocked, he will certainly assist his brother in obtaining necessary treatment, and that his brother should do some decent time for his action. Anyone that knows Cainan, will understand that he will be much tougher on himself, than any of the harsh comments or condemnations posted on this forum, including whatever jail time he does. He is just a top-notch quality person. Sorry to disappoint.
Posted by ????, a resident of the San Ramon neighborhood, on Aug 5, 2010 at 1:01 pm
to clear a few things up because clearly you people have no idea what you are talking about...First of all, he is the furthest thing from a rich spoiled kid. What is wrong with everyone? Because he went to san ramon valley high he is all of a sudden spoiled? Not the case, AT ALL. He lived by himself and worked very hard for his money. Second of all, he is not religious, so you can disregard all the "Christianity" comments.
And for the person confused about the comments, ALAMO cut and paste his comment from the previous article on the accident. I don't know why? He is bored? You can't always believe what you read people.
Posted by Charles, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Aug 5, 2010 at 4:38 pm
It's pretty bad when bystanders have to apprehend a drunk driver. My question is...WHERE THE HECK WERE THE DANVILLE POLICE!!!!!! They were probably sitting at intersections waiting for people to pull over. It seems to me there is a BIG problem with this police force.
Bill....they would NEVER thank ANYONE.....I'm sure their mad because they got their faces smaered in the mud AGAIN!
Posted by For the Record, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Aug 5, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Rose: The weekend incident does not change who the person is, he is still an outstanding young man, regardless of the possibility of funerals resulting from the incident. What he did was wrong, terribly wrong, whether death was involved or not, but the incident does not fundamentally change who he is or his character. We now know a little bit a more of him, and understand that he is not perfect, and does need some assistance.
Posted by Concerned Citizen, a resident of the Alamo neighborhood, on Aug 5, 2010 at 6:21 pm
For the Record -
You have got to be kidding me !!!!!!!! The DUI incident at 17 years old certainally did NOT make him a " better person " did it ? Only to repeat the incident 6 years later, should change who he is, but it probably won't and next time, yes next time,we will see if you still feel the same way !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Bob, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Aug 5, 2010 at 6:42 pm
He is not an outstanding young man. If he was you need to look up those 3 words in a dictionary. You Need help just like him. AA for him character school for you. The prison time might make him think a little bit before that 6th or 7th drink.
Posted by Ralph N. Shirlet, a resident of the Alamo neighborhood, on Aug 5, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Shall we consider the probability that Danville EX-press commentators are a potential jury pool? With such decided points of view, may I simply ask if TRUTH is commonly-held opinion mutually rationalized as fact?
Could any of your readers judge Cainan impartially based on evidence yet to be presented or heard? Should we care about all lives in this tragedy including Cainan's and appropriate resolve?
Posted by American, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Aug 6, 2010 at 7:20 am
One issue that I have not seen in any media reports, and/or blogs on this topic, is what what his blood alcohol level when he was arrested. Has anyone seen this information? I am assuming he was way over the impaired limit, which is amazing since it was approximately 10 am when he hit the first person. I realize people do a lot of stupid things when drinking, but to actually hit people, and flee the scene, not knowing if he was leaving someone dead behind, and to continue to hit people, and continue to flee, shows a bigger character problem than having a drinking problem. I understand his young friends are trying to support him, and be there for him, which is an admirable quality in a true friend, but I think they also need to objectively look beyond the mere drinking, see the character issues, and determine if this is the kind of person who truly warrants their friendship.
Posted by Lynn, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Aug 6, 2010 at 7:50 am
American, well said. It is amazing to me that alcohol and drug abuse are excuses for poor judgment, poor choices, abuse, assault, attempted murder, infidelity, and a host of other character problems. Yes, folks... It was his choice to drink. It was his choice to drive. and, it was his choice to continue driving after hitting other human beings.
Posted by KJ, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Aug 6, 2010 at 8:33 am
For the Record:
Based on your rationale,"Cainan Schierholtz is an outstanding young man. . .the incident does not change who he is." Are we forgetting he fled the scene of several accidents and in the midst was responsible for inflicting injuries and causing property damage.
I guess if Cainan committed a murder or robbery, you would still consider him an "outstanding you man"--since as you stated, "the incident does not fundamentally change who he is or his character."
Posted by In Alamo, a resident of the Alamo neighborhood, on Aug 6, 2010 at 9:46 am
For those that are confused about reference to prior posts -- those are in comments to previous article about this person.
In that thread, nearly all first line of supporters came out as saying Cainan was a "Good Christian" (whatever that meant). That line of defence was dropped and now it seems all his buddies (or maybe just one person doing all the defending because there is no registration required for these commentes) are defending him as a person of "good character".
Sadly his character was shown abundantly by his behavior. The only way to get him to stop from running and escaping was blocking the entire street with a truck. Once again -- the fact that he did not ram that truck at full speed and kill/hurt himself means he was very well aware of what he was doing.
Posted by Jasmine, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Aug 7, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Charles, Whats your beef with the Danville police. You perception of our police seems pretty negative. I would like to hear the experiences you've had with them that makes you feel that way. There are complaint forms for you if you have an issue with them Fill it out and send it to them.
Posted by A friend, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Aug 9, 2010 at 10:05 am
I just want to say that I too have been hit by a drunk driver. I was hit and almost killed by a person with several priors so I usually have no sympathy for anyone who drives drunk, but this is one exception. I don't know if it's because I know Cainan personally & know what kind of person he truly is.( Which is a good person, regardless of what other people think). This is a horrible thing that has happened & I think if most people are honest with themselves, it could have happened to a lot of us. We all make mistakes & this is truly a big one. I only pray that he gets the help he needs & after paying for his actions can live a somewhat normal life.
P.S. Thank God it wasn't more serious than it was.