Teens arrested in multiple Danville auto burglaries Around Town, posted by Editor, Danville Weekly Online, on Jul 19, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Two teens have been arrested in connection with a week-long crime spree targeting cars in Danville. The teens, both boys, ages 15 and 17, face charges in 11 auto burglaries and break-ins, Danville police Sgt. Allan Shields said, adding the two were found in possession of stolen property.
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Posted by American, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 19, 2010 at 6:58 pm
I would like to know the names of these criminals, and if they are from Danville. I am sick and tired of the liberal media's policy of not releasing the names of criminal who are under 18.(one of these was 17) If you are old enough to commit an adult crime, you are old enough to have your identity released. The safey of the community to know who these criminals are, and where they live, clearly outweighs any alleged need to protect those under 18. By knowing their names, we can keep an extra vigilent eye on them if they are loitering around our neighborhoods, and hopefully prevent any more of these crime sprees.
Posted by Jo-Ann Jacobson, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 20, 2010 at 6:42 am
I hope the police take these incidents seriously. Perhaps the parents should have some culpibility. If the teenagers are driving their parents car are not the parents somewhat responsible for what happens in their vechile?
Teens need to be responsible for thier behavior as do all adults.
Posted by PE, a resident of the Blackhawk neighborhood, on Jul 20, 2010 at 9:54 am
I agree with Duffy. The teenagers should earn wages through menial tasks through community services until the restitution of the crime is paid off (so the parents cannot come to the rescue of paying for the crime of their children)and also spend time in jail and have a record. It seems that if parents around here will easily bough out from volunteering at sports events of menial tasks at sports events as much as $800/season, then the teens are probably going to get easily bailed out by their parents for their crime and not be punished by them either which will only enforce the teens view that they are above the law. It is not out of need that teens do such crimes around here but for kicks such as the stealing and breaking in of cars. Forget the parents, they are already proving that they lack the parenting skills to prevent such crimes of their teens or they themselves probably think they are above the law and can pay their way out of any arrest. I once witnessed at the local Safeway a father with his children who ate the food in the store without paying and was caught; he was only asked to pay for it after he was caught. So this is only one example of the teens following their role model of such behaviors. Unfortunately, the parents and their children will have to learn through tough consequences of the law which will teach both a lesson; working menial tasks with minimum wages credited (community service?), having their crime recorded on their record, jail time and also the embarassment of their names in the media, which one above also mentioned that protects others in the community. It can also help other good parents keep themselves and their children away from those kind of peers. Sorry, but exposure sure can dampen or prevent such bad behavior.
Posted by Derek, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 20, 2010 at 10:19 am
I'm all for exposing the guilty, and I have stated that several times here before. I would add that the parents of these two hoodlums should be doing those menial tasks (lots of weeds to pull along the Iron Horse trail) right along side Beavis & Butthead.
As to "American": perhaps you can provide some backround as to your conclusion that not publishing minor's names has it's origin in the "left wing media", or sponsorship by democrat pol's. Some links, rather than your mindless Hannity-induced blather. Because I believe it is more likely that a bunch of corporate lawyers - be they dem's or con's - got together and decided they didn't want to deal with legal action against the news organizations that employed them.
I would also remind those here who have been blaming out-of-towners for this type of crime, that there is some irony in finding out two of our own are to blame. No doubt criminals from surrounding areas see the trusting nature of Alamo and Danville as fertile ground. However, as one who had a light stolen off my centurian in front of Panda by a bike riding teen, I know there are locals to blame as well. At least we don't have a gang problem here yet........
Posted by Marie, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 20, 2010 at 10:43 am
I agree that children and parents should pay the consequence for these underage crimes. I have witnessed the escalation of children starting with doorbell ditching, smashing pumpkins, bullying, and of course, TPing. These children have grown up to have to have police records of assault, theft, and vandalism. Some are now getting into cyber bullying, humiliating and intimidating their victims with posting private videos online. These parents only step in when threatened by lawyers. I donít blame these children; I blame the parents for not putting a stop to it in the elementary school years.
If the names of the children and/or parents were posted, and their precious Danville reputation was on the line, Iím sure these types of crimes would cease.
Posted by Laurie, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 20, 2010 at 4:49 pm
My car's window was smashed during these burglaries. The car alarm did not go off and our dog did not bark. Luckily, we did not have anything of value in the car, and St. Farm was wonderful in getting our glass replaced. The police officer filing the report advised us that the juveniles were from the Fremont area.
Posted by Eric, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 20, 2010 at 4:55 pm
I was a victim of one of these burglaries so in no way do I condone their actions and fully support some of the great responses posted here that a hard days work at menial wages would build real character in teenagers. It is a lack of value that many teenagers assign to other peoples' property that is behind these crimes.
For those that would love to blame someone from out of town - I think it is stereotypical or worse naive. More likely that our own children are even more susceptible to this type of crime. Growing up in a privileged area such as the San Ramon Valley can easily distort a youth's sense of value. When 16 year old kids are driving brand new cars to high school and every middle school student has an iPod, cell phone and laptop - let alone a Starbucks budget, does not provide our children an understanding of hard work, whether their own or to value the hard work of someone else. Let's not foster this by creating myths that our children need cell phones or new cars for safety nor do they need the newest iPod. There is no replacement for allowing teenagers to work for their allowance - and to balance their own budgets without parents to distort their reality.
"American", Derek; I would like to respond to releasing the names of the minors who have been charged with these crimes. Is the purpose really public safety, is it public humiliation or is it vigilante justice you are looking for? Young people especially need the opportunity to learn from mistakes and have the opportunity to change their lives without the pressure of being tagged a criminal at age 15 (or even 17) by their judgmental community. And really - public safety, they are looking to steal iPods - I think you will be just fine... and like I learned, remember to double check your doors are locked, because we don't live in a bubble.
Posted by Derek, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 20, 2010 at 6:31 pm
It's not so much the humiliation or vigilante justice I'm after Eric, it's more along the lines of forcing the parents to keep track of their kids at night. Your points are valid, and we all make mistakes - some of us even do it when we're adults. But there are far too many "oh my little Johnny would NEVER do that" types in our town.
I've also seen a couple drug sales lately at the primary school parking lot near me, so in that case, yes, it would be for humiliation's sake. By the time the Danville PD showed, the perp's were gone.
Posted by Sarah, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 20, 2010 at 8:28 pm
I find the stereotypes of Danville parents interesting, especially since, as a parent who came to this town years ago with my own stereotypes, I've found little evidence to support them. Yes, I can think of a few examples, but no more than in any other community. There have always been parents with their heads in the sand...they're not unique to Danville. Nor are teenagers who act entitled.
I guess if you dislike and feel superior to the people in your community, you should consider moving elsewhere. Just a thought. Most of us like it here and like our neighbors too.
Posted by Marie, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 20, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Josie: I did not say the majority of these kids turned into thieves and muggers. I said that I have witnessed the escalation of children making bad choices at a young age, like doorbell ditching, smashing pumpkins, bullying, and TPing, only to do more serious crimes when they were only a few years older.
The problem goes back to the parents, if these minor offenses were stopped at a young age, children could learn from their mistakes, but if parents donít teach and give consequences for these actions, they just grow up wanting to experiment more and push the limits more to see how far they can take these crimes.
Sarah: I do like living here, but there is a problem and these problems do not exist in every community!
Posted by Karl, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 21, 2010 at 8:17 am
Identity of Thieves in the Media.
The names of the mother and father should be reported for each juvenile charged with committing a crime.
Why should this be a problem. If I had damage to my car I would gladly sue the invidual that caused the damage through his / her parents. The parents' names would be public information in court records. Why shouldn't they be disclosed now?
What we're doing here is further shielding the parents from a good amount of accountability here. If they were responsible parents, it is highly unlikely their child would be involved in criminal activity.
Memo to Danville Express: if you won't report the minors, tell us who the parents are.
Posted by Linda, a resident of the Alamo neighborhood, on Jul 21, 2010 at 8:29 am
Oh people! Let's face it. We live here because we like the bubble. We chose the good schools, low crime, and great climate. The fact that everybody is getting worked up about these crimes in our near perfect community, shows me that it is unusual. Stuff happens everywhere. I have lived and traveled all over California. I grew up where IF a teenager got a car, he/she had to work to earn it. This usually meant getting some old "beater", and rebuilding it to make it drivable. I haven't seen a community yet, where there isn't some crime, either out of boredom or desperation.
My children have had a fabulous education, a phenomenal sense of community, and opportunities too numerous to count. Yes, like many kids in this community, ours are privileged.
My children are in college now, and they are getting the chance to see some of the world outside of Danville. Parenting is personal and individual. Regardless of how we chose to parent, it is important to be involved and do your best to know what is going on in their lives. Parents... Just do your best.
Posted by jojo, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 21, 2010 at 8:35 am
Don't pick on the traffic cops... I see speeders and locals driving while talking on cell phone.. which has led to many accidents in my neighborhoods.. which would you rather stop people running red lights and killing your family or stealing phones and laptops that you were stupid enough to leave in the car???
Posted by Marie, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 21, 2010 at 9:50 am
Linda: I do not live here because I like living in a bubble, I think that is ridiculous to say! I chose this area because it looks good on paper, however, after moving in we quickly learned that anything can be put on paper. The schools may be good for CA, but they do not match up to the rest of the USA, not to mention that many parents supplement their childrenís education with tutoring. The low crime should state that many incidents go unreported or that petty crime or crimes committed by teenagers donít count. As far as the income levels, there is such a wide range of personalities, that it shouldnít even be considered. You also mentioned great climate, but forget to mention that only relates to the summer months and, of course, that is a matter of opinion, some individuals would rather have all 4 seasons rather than 2.
Linda, you also mentioned that crimes happen everywhere, and you would be correct, however, if you compare Danville with other similar towns, you would see that Danville does stand out in a negative way. Enough about that, I just wanted to point out that your opinion may be limited by only living in CA.
Jojo: you totally get it. Let the police do their jobs. You may not like what they are doing, but they are doing their job. Yes, I would rather see less accidents, it blows my mind how many car accidents send people to the hospital. There is definitely something wrong; and in my opinion it is all of the money that take up our attention rather than doing the right thing. Iím sure Iíll have to explain that later.
Posted by Linda, a resident of the Alamo neighborhood, on Jul 21, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Actually, I have lived in California, Oregon, Virginia, and Southern California (yes, some consider that another state). I love the California year round climate. I do hope that where ever you call "home", you are able to get back to one day. I do know that being away from our home is difficult and lonely.
Posted by Real American, a resident of the Blackhawk neighborhood, on Jul 21, 2010 at 9:24 pm
The bottom line is that people need to take personal responsibility for there own actions. These kids are old enough to know the difference between right and wrong and should be punished as the criminals they are. Parents also need to do a better job raising their kids. I consistantly see kids doing drugs, underage drinking and used condoms in parking lots. We need to stop making excuses for these kids and let them know there are real consequences for their actions.
Posted by Freckle, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 21, 2010 at 10:30 pm
Is someone making excuses for these kids? Hopefully they are in a load of trouble and every convenience they have will be taken away including the cell phone, iphone, ipod, xbox, ps4, macbook, and their CAR for a very very long time. Not to mention doing community service along side their peers who have strayed.
Posted by Marlene, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 22, 2010 at 9:13 am
Respect!!! That's what every child should be taught from day one. It encompasses every aspect of living in the midst of our world. Respect your parents, siblings, family, friends, neighbors, elderly, fire and law enforcement, animals, property of others, opinions, etc, etc,etc. Let's bring back a bit of the olden days, when we obeyed laws and rules, and didn't challenge everything that didn't suit our fancy. Time for some parents to be just that. Spend time parenting your children, rather than spending time on your own image and keeping up with those in a higher stratosphere. Get real...use common sense to help your children grow up to be productive, responsible, respectable individuals. Keep them accountable for their actions. Tough love.
Posted by Kay, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jul 22, 2010 at 9:51 am
Understand from BofA security guard that older person from outside the area (Fremont) dropped underage teens in the area to break into cars. Hopefully, the police are looking for the additional culprits.