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on Jun 2, 2010
Wow! All this ink for McNerney - must be election season...
Certainly is election season.
This politician refuses to listen to the majority of his constituents and continues to vote for increases in spending, taxes and government control. He knew that by a wide majority we did not want Obamacare but he refused to listen. Remember folks that it is not his seat it is the Peoples Seat. If he refuses to listen to the People it is our duty to remove him from office.
Kick this bum and the rest of the bums out
(Both Republican and Democrat alike)
Danville is the only municipality among 19 in Contra Costa, in which Voter Registration of REPs (11,990) exceeds that of DEMs (9,396), as of 05/28. Registration of REPs (36,037) exceed DEMs (34,442) slightly in the 11th CD portion of the County.
No incumbents from any party will get our votes.
This guy refused to meet with constituents last summer; refused to answer letters and voted against the majority of those he was supposed to represent.
He is called a ".... Representative ...." ??
McNerney would better serve Obama as his Special Envoy to wind farms.
Very strange, as I have received an answer to any question I have posed since he was elected. Sounds like some sour grapes or even some tea baggers here. The one correct thing here is that if you don't like your representative try and effect change through the ballot box.
It was probably because all you obamabots will only ask politically correct questions. Please stop drinking the cool-aid. I have called mcnerey office many times and got no response because I did not fit in to the pc crowd or they openly admitted that the overwhelming response was to vote against the Healthcare Bill and he still voted for it. Remember Billy that he serves the people we do not serve him. It is the Peoples Seat.
Friday @ 2-3PM ! That should really turn out a cross section of Danville political views. Most Republicans will be out earning a living.
Not surprised that you teapartiers fail to mention what McNerney has done for Veterans, unlike others in the Congress.My experience is as Bill's,I get answers when I ask,maybe it has to do with how you ask them!You keep drinking Fox's cool-aid and partisanship will tear us apart.
Mc Nerney did vote AYE on the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2011, H.R. 5136, on May 28, just before Congress recessed, favoring spending, taxes and government control. Most Republicans in the House voted NAY, apparently because they are anti-war.
My experience of the Peloci rubber stamp, Jerry McNerney is that he votes on party line regardless of what "We the People" ask for..... He, like the rest of this current bunch of bums in Washington need to be thrown out.... Jerry has done some good for us Vets in our community but that has been due in most part to the well established organization of Vets here in the valley way before Jerry got here. All of our politicians need to do there patriotic part to support our military soldiers both past and present. I for one am so tired of McNerney's partisan politics and arrogant attitude that the HE have shown "We the People".... it's time for a change my friends... time to get back to the conservative side of the isle before the socialist destroy our great country.....
I voted for McNerney in 2006 because at the time I was very upset at Pombo's support for that stupid Iraq war and Pombo was an uncompromising Bush supporter. I am sick of partisan bickering and McNerney campaigned that he would work to solve problems "with a bipartisan effort." Yeah right.
McNerney's vote for that healthcare law is enough for me to vote against him in November. That is going to bankrupt our country and doesn't lower healthcare costs. Plus, it greatly expands the govt. They've already formed 159 new govt. agencies to implement it and they're just getting started.
His vote for cap and trade was also a disaster. If you want to discourage fossil fuel usage, why not a carbon tax? That would be simple to administer and wouldn't require a massive new govt. bureaucracy.
I'm voting against McNerney in Nov. If the person who replaces him turns out to be an idiot, I'll vote against them in the next election. Someone needs to bring some sanity back to Washington.
spcwt.....I am curious who you are going to vote for therefore? Who amongst the republican choices will get your support and why?
I can't say that I see much of a difference between the Republican candidates. I am not ideologically aligned with any of them. My vote will be a rejection of McNerney only, not an endorsement of any candidate.
McNerney has shown his true colors voting FOR Bogus-2400 page-unread full-of-pork-Health Care Bill. I called his office, as did many, asking him not to support this since most Americans were AGAINST it....didn't matter! In essence he voted FOR unsustainable debt and Bankrupcy for our Country. A leopard does not change his spots. His votes damaged us and our children and grandchildren. Anyone with common sense and a good moral compass knows this was the wrong thing to do...voting FOR a bill that was not READ or UNDERSTOOD is arrogant. Even his buddy, Nancy Pelosi admitted that "...it needs to pass so that we can see what is in it." We need an honorable voice for We the People, and it is NOT McNerney!...Out with the bums...
I've sometimes had to call twice to receive a call back, but years ago I volunteered at the office of another representative and I remember how busy we were so I haven't considered it any sort of conspiracy or avoidance of my alternative opinion. I find the very notion amusing - all politicians are adept at handling these sorts of calls/written communications and the idea that they are threatened by the questions or opinions of constituents who disagree is a riot.
I think it is time for the congress person who represents our district votes for OUR district and the WILL of the district VS voting the party line and or voting for the betterment of themselves
1. Party Line Example:
I want to know why Congressman McNerney voted yes for the health care bill, when the majority of polls indicated our district was against this particular bill and the process behind the bill.
2. Self Serving Example:
Last week McNerney voted down an amendment to eliminate 2010 pay raises for non military federal employees, including those on Capitol Hill. This amendment would save Americans $30 billion dollars. Congress and McNerney voted to give federal employees a raise, when many of his constituents are among the unemployed. A $30 billion savings is not much compared to the trillions we owe, but a vote no would be a symbolic gesture letting folks know that he empathizes with the millions of Americans unemployed and underemployed & their families that are going through unprecedented financial and personal hardship during the worst recession in 70 years
I understand that Congressman McNerney is a nice guy, and has done good things for veterans and the likes. However, in my opinion, McNerney needs to go.
He is not doing his job. His job is to represent us. Congressman McNerney is PURPOSELY out of touch and voting the party line.
Time is running out for Congressman McNerney. It must be very lonely at McNerney campaign headquarters these days. After his voting record over the past 18 months, I doubt that he has any supporters left in District 11.
We have a fantastic Congressman Jerry McNerney and anyone that can should go see him tomorrow. His leadership and support for our veterans, soldiers and families has been a huge help for District 11.
We support him and his hard work for us all and will be proud to send him back to Congress to keep up his great job. Thank you Jerry McNerney.
He has earned my vote....I won't sway all the strident teabaggers intent on slamming him in this forum, but I will say this, I refrained from using the term "teabaggers" until they lowered the level of civic discourse and I will return it to them in kind. "Patriotic grandma" and the rest...the relentless disrespecting of our President....you all disgust me, you sit in the bleachers and jeer but offer no alternatives...my question to spcwt and his response is a great example...do you yearn for the days of Pombo? He says he doesn't relate to any of them, but he will pick one randomly just to make a point...healthcare reform was essential folks, you just don't get it. Okay grandma....how do you feel about Blue Cross of California deciding they had faulty actuarial data on which they based their 39% rate increase after we all raised a fuss? They decided to not pass along the increase....after folks like me in the industry stood up and said no way....you, Grandma, would have raised your flag and said thanks Blue Cross, we have the best system in the world and let's just keep the status quo perpetuating on behalf of my children....you really are not informed. Sadly entitled to spout off, but not at all speaking from a perpsective that has all the facts....I hope you and your hate filled tea baggers go down to defeat....Thank You Jerry Mac...no one is perfect, but do not think we all buy into this teabagger horse hockey...
McNerney is a representative who has violated the trust of his constituents. He has voted to spend money we don't have. He has voted to pass a health care bill he knows will hurt 95% of Americans. He has shown that he does not share even basic values with average Americans. The ballot box will show him he is accountable to the people of California's District 11.
You managed to use teabagger more then anyone else and were more disrespectful as well. Just like a typical liberal, filled with hate for anyone that does not agree with an opposite point of view. I am not sure how you can see through your narrow minded eyes. Must be a great view from the cheap seats. I did and do not like Bush and I watched you liberals & liberal media be as disrespectful to a President as I have ever seen. I guess the teabaggers are just using the liberal model. By the way if you wish an intelligent debate I suggest a bit more research before you spout off.
We do and did need healthcare reform. I do not think anyone would disagree. However did we need the government to run the entire industry which is nearly 20% of our GNP (That means Gross National Product for you jrm) I think not. The government should run the military the rest should be run by private industry. Much more efficient and productive. The 2400 page healthcare bill is not what the majority of Americans wanted. They wanted government oversight and controls especially with the insurance companies. My company uses Anthem/Blue Cross and I was upset with the idea of huge increases in premium. However I do realize that the government running it is a huge mistake. As with anything the government gets involved in (Social Security, Medicare, Post Office) they will screw it up - wasteful and inefficient. You must be a worker bee that is not responsible for bottom line. Your buddy mcnerney voted for it without reading it, as did most of the the obamabots.
By the way did your President/Commander and Chief show up at Arlington on Memorial Day - No he was on vacation.
What a Patriot your President has become
(How do you like that change)
I hope jerry's staff has jobs lined up in December. There boss is on his way out.
JRM, I am not filled with hate for McNerney. I gave him a chance and voted for him in 2006 and he let me down. No hard feelings. He said he agonized over his healthcare vote, which obviously shows he recognized the bill's flaws. Ultimately, he caved in to his boss's demands and voted for it. When faced with intense pressure, don't most of us do what our bosses tell us to do? He's no worse than most of us. I expect when he loses, they will take care of him. No doubt he was smart enough to get that assurance before he voted. He'll get appointed to some government commission or advisory board or some such. He'll be ok.
I agree with your criticism that Republicans have offered no realistic government solutions to many of our nations problem, including healthcare.
But is the Democrats' plan of borrowing $1 trillion+ a year, cutting Medicare by $300 billion, and creating 159 new govt. healthcare agencies (and counting) really a "solution?" If you can't pay your bills, is "paying by credit card" a "solution?"
JRM, I've read your many posts on this website about healthcare. You obviously know a great deal more than most about the problems of American healthcare. But when pressed on realistic ways to pay for it, you suddenly grow silent. You and people like you point to the savings we'll get when we end those stupid wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, but clearly the savings won't be enough. We've got to somehow find $50 trillion+ to shore up Social Security and Medicare. And now we've got to pay for this new healthcare entitlement? We don't have the money for that. We're broke.
McNerney signed us up for yet another obligation we can't afford. When will the government learn to live within its means, just like the rest of us have to?
I campaigned for McNerney but when he blew me off at the 4th of July parade in 08 when I told him the Dems were making a mistake supporting Obama, that's when this old Dem said good bye to her party. I might go down today and let him know he lost this Democrat and tell him this is not the Democrat party I have known.
Agree w/ previous comments by spcwt.
However, one comment points out that even those of us that are ignored tend to temporarily forget who he works for:
"...Ultimately, he caved in to his boss's demands and voted for it..."
We are McNerney's boss! .... He doesn't get it. He is supposed to REPRESENT us ... the vast majority of the comments here honestly address his inability to represent the majority of the constituents in this Congressional District.
To paraphrase a recent winning politician: "It isn't McNerney's seat, it's the PEOPLE'S SEAT."
McNerney should learn this in his few remaining months in office.
Send this lightweight back to his windfarm!
The gang of four GOP lightweights can sling all the mud they want at each other and at Congressman Jerry McNerney but at the end of the day we are going to elect Jerry McNerney. Jerry has been a fantastic Congressman and has done great and hard work for us all. His leadership in getting his two bills passed and signed into law to increase benefits and care for our soldiers, veterans and families is a huge benefit for us in District 11. We are proud to send Jerry back to Washington to keep up his good work. Thank you Jerry McNerney!!!
Chet ... you may be the only person in District 11 voting for McNerney. Comrade McNerney has sold out to the extreme left wing radicals of the Democatic Party. For the majority of District 11 voters, the anger over his voting record is boiling over. We need a representative that will actually listen to his constituents and act in the their best interests. Jerry McNerney has shown he is not that person.
I'm not going to weigh in with the rest of you uh... Jerry's kids, but I ask the same question to Duffy, Steve, TL Nelson, and others here that I have asked many times before: where was your indignation, your sense of outrage, your tea-bag equipped hats at flaccid protests, during the Cheney administration's reign of terror? Your frenzied screams as the Bush Junta led us into a multi-trillion dollar illegal invasion (and don't ever call it a war because it's not one) that killed hundreds of thousands? Show us all the archived links where you wrote in letters of protest or the like. Oh, that's right - you can't. Because nothing like that exists, and it never did.
There's no such thing as a good politician, any more than "military intelligence", and you gasbags arguing over which worthless replacement you'll vote for will never stop amusing me.
Jim...The Republicans were FOR Healthcare Reform and in their meeting with the president, were ignored and cut off.You also said that we "jeer and offer NO ALTERNATIVES ". We all watched the TV when Obama met with Republicans on Health Care. We had common sense proposals that included Selling Insurance across State Lines and Tort Reform, but the Democrats ignored these "alternatives". So much for bi-partisanship. You said that you're discusted by "PatrioticGrandma's" relentless disrespecting of our President....Reread my post. There is no mention of the president. Jim, our Country is in trouble like we have never seen before. It is time to get back to basics and have representatives who represent us. By the way, all of the candidates running in 11th district support and honor our Troops and Vets. After all, we are the "Home of the Free...BECAUSE of the BRAVE"!
Our fine Congressman Jerry McNerney is a great rep for us all. He works hard for us all and his bills and votes have been super for us all and even better for the country. We will all be proud to send Jerry back to Washington to continue his work. His proven and respected leadership has really helped the veterans, soldiers and families in our District.
Congressman Jerry McNerney is not a great rep for us all. He represents a fringe in American politics. He doesn't work hard for us - he works hard for far-left factions. I will be ashamed to send such a person back to Washington as the "best" we can come up with. His "leadership" is the result of puppet strings tied to Nancy Pelosi.
Do not send this empty shirt back to Washington.
We all know you don't like Jerry McNerney but his record and leadership in Congress for all of us in District 11 has been fantastic. His authored and passed and signed bills increasing the health benefits for our veterans, soldiers and families can't be touched. Jerry will proudly run on his record and I am sorry their is nothing you can do about it. We are very proud to have Jerry Mcnerney representing us in Washington.
Yesterday a group of CD11 patriots went to Jerry McNerney's "Congress on the Corner" event in Danville. McNerney is such a coward. In an attempt to control his environment he held his meeting at a library. He selected a small room so there would not be a big crowd. Everyone had to sign in and take a number. He only allowed 20 people in at a time. We got there early so when the first group went in it was mostly patriots. He started going around the room giving each person a chance to speak. It got ugly quick. The first person rambled on about some bill he wanted McNerney to endorse. Yawn. The second person laid into him about the illegal immigration problem and our borders and we were off to the races. Our patriots were all over him like a wet blanket. He had nowhere to hide. It was great. We asked him if he was one of the DEMs who stood up and clapped when Philipe Calderon, the Prez from Mexico, was addressing Congress. The congressman stated repeatedly that he "DID NOT REMEMBER". We jumped on him…. One guy walked out. We laughed at him and said your kidding? Right? How could you not know if you stood up or not when el presidente calderon dissed our country's and ARizona's laws of sovereignty---- What a lier! We pounded him on our national debt and the out of control spending. Of course, he kept saying Bush did it and they inherited a big mess. Blah, Blah, Blah. We blasted him on this too. When it was my turn I had had enough!!! I said something like…. I am sick and tired of this administration and you blaming the dead guy. Bush has been out of office from a year and a half. When are you going to start taking responsibility for the out of control spending and debt. Granted TARP was a bad Bush idea, but that doesn't make it right for you to spend us into oblivion. Piling on the stimulus, omnibus, jobs bills, obamacare, car bailouts, etc. is debasing our dollar and we are going to go down like Greece. In fact we even helped bailout Greece through the IMF. I asked Mr. McNerney when he and his cronies are going to stop the out of control spending? He tried to say that they passed the Pay as you Go bill, which I immediately pointed out they had violated already. He was so shocked. You could see the blood draining from his face. He was visibly shaking and he backed up to the point that he actually fell into his chair. I asked him again. When are you going to stop spending our money? He basically just choked and said next question. At that point I left the room. I couldn't take it anymore.
What a joke of a congressman. We need to get rid of this guy!!
Dear"East Bay Tea party" It is very obvious you came to the meeting just to disrupt. Jerry McNerney has answers to your questions but you do not listen. Manners are important in all situations and it is obvious you lack any. Jerry McNenery is a fantastic Congressman and a great rep for us in District 11. You can scream and disrupt all you want but we will still be voting for Jerry McNerney.
You are in the minority.
Dear East Bay Tea Baguette: I ask the same question for the umpteenth time: Can you show us any records of you asking the same of Dick Cheney or any other member of the Bush Cabal? Their spending never bothered you at all at the time.
The scope of your ignorance is truly breathtaking, and surpassed only by the complete uselessness of your group of faux-patriots. It's sad when the object of humor isn't even in on the joke. Patriots? Don't make me laugh.
There needs to be a clarification. The Tea Bag movement was started by Obama supporters when they [deleted] put him in office. The Tea Party movement started shortly thereafter. Hope that clears things up.
Vote for David Harmer. We need to run McNerney out of office but will first have to remove Pelosi's arm from his backside as he does not speak unless she tells him to. What a disgrace. McNerney has voted the party line without reading any of the bills. The one job Congress is supposed to do is handle the purse strings. Where is the budget this year? Oh, that's right they were too busy on Obamacare, cap and tax and other non-sense.
We need leaders in Washington that will stop bankrupting this Nation. Promote jobs and restore the eonomy. Vote for David Harmer.
You tea baggers are a strange lot. We in District 11 are never going to be fooled and return to the failed policies of the GOP. We have a fantastic Congressman in Jerry McNerney who is proud to run on his record. Those are the facts and that is what voters use to make decisions. Voters are not impressed by the strange antics of the local tea baggers and their moronic kick out the bums childish slogans.
Nicely done Pete....our kids read these threads and you have vividly portrayed a sincere faction of the tea bagger movement...I really can't add anything more.....
spcwt...I do appreciate your civil discourse....I don't fall silent on "how we pay for it" because it has been spelled out.....I pay United Healthcare $562.00 per month out of pocket after my employer portion....the overall expense is $1459.00. My taxes go up, United goes away....secondly....and very important is the concept of "disease management"....private insurers have contracted with firms for years that specialize in managing Diabetes, Congestive Heart Failure (CHF) and Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (COPD). These are the conditions that consume a lot of healthcare dollars...the disease management companies gurantee savings to the insurer and provide a clinical specialist to guide the member through their care. Savings have been documented for years in the private sector but Medicare has only done limited "pilot programs"...I know, I ran one..effective management of these diseases (along with obsesity)is key.....no free luch but we can do it!
After reading through this thread, the overwhelming Republican victories in November will be that much sweeter. Best of all, Boss Nancy will have to hand over the keys to the 747.
Thanks. When progressive moon bats attack others they have a script:
1. Bush did it.
2. You are a racist.
3. Create a derogatory name like "tea bagger".
4. Bush did it.
Note above the use of the "tea bagger" name calling was used to attack the Tea Party. If progressive/socialist/communist/statist/elitist democrats want to use names, it is a two way street. You have raised it to an artform only exceeded by monkeys in a zoo flinging poo at each other.
Jerry McNerney has been a puppet for Pelosi. He seems not to have not read a bill since he has been in office. Let's review some of his accomplishments: voted for Obamacare, porkulus and cap and tax. The one job the House has is to produce a budget, so where is it? The Spendocrats know that the tar and feathers will come out when they have to report to the citizens how much damage they have done to our Nation. So they will delay issuing the budget until after November. Just a coincidence right? Yet on his way out of town, McNerney voted for another big spending bill. Outrageous.
McNerney had better be clearing his office out for Harmer.
PS: If you want to use terms like tea bagger then be prepared for a response. [deleted] If you want to have a civil discourse, then again it is a two way street.
Pete- I guess you missed this one.
DUBLIN Nearly a dozen East Bay veterans scrawled their signatures Tuesday morning across a ceremonial, wall-sized copy of recently signed legislation that will boost federal attention to the development of state-of-the-art treatment of traumatic brain injuries.
Led by Rep. Jerry McNerney, D-Pleasanton, who shepherded the legislation through Congress, the event marked the successful passage of the first of several of the congressman's initiatives to improve medical services for military servicemen and women returning from Iraq and Afghanistan.
The bill establishes a Department of Veterans Affairs panel that will assess and recommend treatments and establish education and training programs for medical professionals. It also boosts mental health services for families of service members.
12 veterans out of how many thousands in the Bay Area? They must all be McKnee's relatives...
I would have liked to attend. It would be nice if our local representatives planned their meetings for times in which those who have commitments during the day could attend. Currently, it seems as though these meetings are designed to attract the retired or unemployed. This also applies to the monthly mayors meeting.
When I asked, "How will we pay for it?" I meant how will the Fed. Govt. pay for this new multi-trillion dollar entitlement when it can't even pay its bills now?
It's like a family that has no food, can't pay the utility bill, kids need clothes, grandma needs her medication, they're facing foreclosure, and what do the parents do? They decide to sign the kids up for really expensive swimming lessons. Knowing how to swim could save your life, but seriously, where's their common sense?! They need to prioritize in order to pay their bills.
Every dollar the govt. spends on these new healthcare tax credits and expanding Medicaid is a dollar that cannot be spent on other important items.
Social Security and Medicare are headed towards insolvency. How will McNerney explain to seniors that instead of keeping commitments already made to them, he decided to give new healthcare tax credits to people making $88,000 (which is the limit under the new Healthcare law McNerney signed)? Mr. McNerney, you can't do that to our seniors!
Republicans and Democrats alike have been unconscionably reckless with federal spending. According to the CBO, even if we tripled everyone's income taxes, that still wouldn't be enough to cover this year's budget deficit (let alone pay anything towards our national debt).
Nearly every economist agrees that out of control Federal spending will lead our country into financial ruin.
Don't sign up for new financial promises you can't keep, Mr. McNerney. Fix it!
spcwt - you can dramatically reduce your chances of drowning by avoiding activities around water, therefore making those "really expensive swimming lessons" less necessary.
You can't avoid getting sick and needing medical intervention. In the current system with so many people without benefits, the uninsured wait to seek medical care until they are so sick that they require expensive hospitalization and procedures rather than getting treatment while their issues are less dire and less expensive to treat (to use your analogy, they go from the wading pool into the deep end without their floaties...).
The new system is incredibly complex but deserves a chance to see what kinds of tweaks are needed in order to maintain a system where all have access to medical care, are not denied benefits/procedures that are life saving, and where people do not go bankrupt paying for health care.
I agree with Becky Jean. These meetings should be held at a time where many more constituents can attend and at a larger venue.
I've been to a couple McNerney "Congress At Your Corners" and if you haven't, please be forewarned...
- It will likely be in a very small location that limits the number of attendees
- He will be located on the other side of a table or other barrier where he will conduct one-on-one "whisper sessions" with the people there
- These "whisper sessions" will be such that other attendees cannot hear the attendees' questions nor hear his answers
These "At Your Corners" are a joke.
He doesn't give a rip about your concerns. Look at his voting record...98 percent extreme leftist with Pelosi.
He needs to be STRONGLY REMINDED that he is OUR employee. He is SUPPOSE to represent US! Why should HE dictate the format of his meetings???
We should dictate the meeting format and that...
WE want to hear...
1. Every attendees' questions, and
2. His answers to every attendees' questions!!!
I'm not against forcing people to have health insurance. Neither should the Republicans, as it was their idea. They thought it up back when Nixon was president.
What I oppose is having the federal govt. giving people healthcare tax credits and expanding Medicaid eligibility without a clear plan on how they're going to pay for existing entitlements, like Social Security and Medicare.
You can't rob our seniors in order to give out this new benefit.
spcwt - most senior advocacy organizations (as well as the one I work for) strongly support health care reform in general, and the current plan in particular. One non-profit created a flyer with the benefits specifically to those over 65 with the new health care system. Two weeks ago one of our families spoke to a senator about their experience and how the changes will positively affect the ill spouses ability to access medical care.
I too have concerns about exactly how this will play out (not for seniors) for my children who will soon be on their own - but I can't support a system that provides for some and not for others. Plus, I'm tired of contributing via taxes to a system that will cover surgery for an indigent person who could have been treated much earlier in a much less expensive manner if only they had been given an option to receive care earlier.
Tracy (and others)
So, you say you have concerns how this nationalized healthcare will play out ...
Look no further and read the headlines in various papers >>> Web Link
By the way, do you have any pliers in your workshop at home? Better get some, especially when you become a senior. You may need to pull your own teeth because there will likely be too few dentists and if you're lucky to get an appointment, it'll be months before your emergency will be addressed. Many who are refused treatment have to pull their own teeth. (You can thank Democrats like McNerney for this 'quality' care...which will also cost us much more.)
National....you realize that AARP and AMA both endorse the new health care plan, yes? The notion that seniors are at additional risk with this new plan is just not the case. I'm onboard with concerns about the new plan in some areas, but health care for seniors is not one of them.
Tracy, Tracy, Tracy,
My dear...I do not mean to be hyper-critical here. But please understand a very very important point. Yes, the AMA and AARP endorsed it. However, did you know that the AMA only represents a very very small minority of docs? Somewhere under 20%. Those who remain in the AMA are very leftwing fringe...and many of them do not work in private practice. I do not know of one private practice doc who supports Obamacare.
Regarding the AARP...one might logically conclude that they are operating in the best interests of seniors. But the way Obamacare works is that the Fed has given AARP enormous sums to come out in favor of this program. Obama has "bought" the AARP endorsement and I believe somehow the economics of Obamacare works in favor of the AARP.
However, Obamacare...in reality and by definition includes rationing of care. And yes, they will not call it as such...but it does amount to death panels, as Palin declared. Even Peter Orszag confirms that death panels are a centerpiece of Obamacare in this video >>> Web Link
(BTW: I have a PhD in Health Policy from Northwestern and know what I am talking about.)
I did not miss it. The old days of borrowing money, pork, spending and bringing it home have to be over. As a Nation we need to cut spending, cut government and the borrowing, spending and debt. So old Jerry was able to drag home 18 billion dollars for the Nummi plant. How much did the program you mention cost and how is it being paid for? When the Nation is broke you need to snip up the credit cards, worthwhile causes or not. We cannot continue to live beyond our means.
Jerry will be out of office in November. Good riddance and maybe Harmer can start restoring some fiscal sanity to the Nation and focus on jobs and the economy. U-6 unemployment in California is what 22%? Yet we still send moonbats like Pelosi, Woolsey, Lee, Waters, Waxman, Stark, Boxer, Miller back to office. California deserves to be broke with an electorate that continues to send creatures like this back to DC.
Where was the concern over fiscal responsibiltiy when Bush and the Republicans using reconciliation put through tax cuts for the rich while spending on the Iraq war which will amount to trillions as we pay for the medical care of the wounded for decades? There was no budget deficit when Bush took office. The current administration was not only handed a whopping deficit, but an economy headed for a major depression. It is fortunate we'll never know how bad it could have been, but it won't stop people from carping that it has cost us dearly to come back from the brink of disaster.
I also attended the first session of McNerney's town hall. McNerney is the most pale faced man I know so I chuckled about the comment about blood draining from his face. He couldn't have fallen into a chair. There was a lectern behind him. He handled much hostility and misinformation in a very calm and collected way, merely saying he disagreed with the figures at some points. One woman asked him why we weren't drill drill drilling for oil as the US has such huge supplies. A couple of attendees talked about the 123 trillion dollar debt when the current nation national debt stands at 13 trillion.
Jerry McNerney personally has improved the situation for veterans via his committee membership. Re representation, the health bill had the support of the majority of those who elected Jerry. I was angry about his wanting to read the final bill before making his final decision after months of debate. It would be a better bill if we could get money out of politics. The insurance industry has invested in too many campaigns. Sorry, folks, but we have always been paying for the uninsured one way or another.
Congressman McNerney's knowledge of renewable energy sources is probably unsurpassed in Congress. This is our future: jobs, way to free ourselves of dependence on foreign oil, and a less polluting way of life.
I'd like to appeal to the public to watch the news on public television. Too many people today parrot Faux News. I am amazed at the gullibility of Americans. How many completely made up emails make the rounds? I grew up on a farm so the smell of BS is very familiar to me. The future of our country depends on a more skeptical public. We need to do more fact checking. Look at PG&E's portrayal of Prop 16 as a classic example. Those who don't read papers or fine print have been duped. This is an easy one, but industry in general is extremely clever about fooling us into believe the best public servants and laws are not in our interest when it's their interest they are concerned about.
Everyone on this forum is concerned. Be concerned enough to become informed.
No doubt some seniors will get some benefits under Healthcare reform. But you're missing the point. What happens when we can no longer borrow $1 trillion per year to balance our budget? Don't you think the Fed. Govt. will then be forced to cut spending? As Medicare and Social Security are our biggest expenditures, no doubt they will be cut. Will seniors be happy then?
Like the hypothetical family budget, everyone is happy so long as everyone gets what they want. But when the credit card is maxed out, and the family loses the house and can't afford to pay for anything anymore, will everyone be still be happy?
In passing Healthcare Reform, McNerney agreed to take on a new multi-trillion dollar spending obligation when we can't even afford what we owe now. Where will we get the money to pay for it all?
National...you lost me entirely with "death panels" and your credentials are meaningless to me (I'm not going to bore you with mine and I wonder why you felt you had to share yours...). Honestly, even the tea party-types have abandoned that ilk of inflammatory nonsense, along with notion of people being forced to have microchips implanted - come on!
When a group endorses a new policy, it can't always be that votes were bought when it is a democratic supported policy and that the endorsements were given based on solid facts when it is a republican policy. Yet this is the knee jerk response so frequently seen on this forum.
Finally, health care is rationed under the current system - I've experienced this first hand with multiple families that we have had to advocate for, often while people died because their carrier denied life saving benefits in order to protect their own bottom line.
I don't believe that the new system will solve all the health care issues that we face in this country, but I do believe that it is a step in the right direction.
If you cannot understand the concept of "rationing" as explained by the marxist budget director in this clip...then heaven help you.
clip (again) >>> Web Link
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